This thing starts pretty harmless: you’re a dude dumped into a new town, new school, trying to act like you’ll focus on “normal life” and not on every giant ass that passes in the hallway. That lie lasts about five clicks. The game is basically you wandering around a school and house and a few spots in town, poking at stuff, poking at people, poking at yourself in the shower because the so-called “quiet life” turns into a horny soap opera really fast. It’s all point & click, so half the time you’re like “ok, I’ll check the kitchen” and suddenly there’s your mom turned into a thick, animated wet dream, tits threatening to escape her top while she bends over some random chore that clearly exists only so your view gets full screen cleavage. It looks 3D, but not that sterile AAA style, more like weirdly plastic and shiny in a way that actually fits the porn vibe. Faces are sometimes a bit stiff, but asses jiggle in a way that had me forget how expressions even work.

The rhythm is kinda messy, which I weirdly liked. One moment you just try to find your classroom and the next you end up hiding a hard-on behind your school bag because the teacher calls you to her desk and leans forward like she’s doing a charity event for thigh lovers. There’s that sandbox thing going on, so you pick where to go in your day and who to “bump into”. I clicked on the bathroom at home just to see if anything happens, and yeah, it does: you catch your “relative” stepping out of the shower, towel barely hanging, steam everywhere, nipples clearly visible through the fabric, and the game just lets you stare too long. The MC comments like a horny idiot, and you get the option to stay and jerk off, which of course I pretended I wouldn’t do and then did anyway. The masturbating scenes are actually animated, not just static pics, so you see that slow handjob motion, his dick glistening, and you can almost hear the “this is a bad idea” thought die in his brain. I wish the sound design had more filthy breathing or wet noises, but whatever, my browser stayed open anyway. At one point I was in the living room, clicking around like a fool, and the milf in the house sat down next to me in a tight tank top, boobs pressed together so hard it should be against school rules, and when she “innocently” adjusts her top, it slides low enough that the areola pops for a second. I swear I rewound that with a quicksave like three times and then complained to myself that the game didn’t let me motorboat her right away, which is stupid, because slow burn incest tension is clearly the point here. But still, let a man dream.

What surprised me is that they actually try a bit of romance too, not just pure porn. You flirt, send texts, click the wrong answer and suddenly the girl with the perfect huge tits is annoyed and doesn’t give you that handjob scene you know is hiding in the event list somewhere. I got locked out of one scene because I forgot to talk to her at school in the morning, and I was more mad about that than about some bugs I hit earlier, like a loop where the day would not progress unless I clicked some random door. The school corridors are a circus of eye candy: short skirt here, tight jeans there, that one girl whose ass is so big the camera basically zooms in by itself when she walks away. Sometimes the timing is off, you get a build up and then the scene ends just when the milf is finally stroking your cock under the table and you think “ok, now she’ll finish me” and nope, fade to black, you’re blueballed and thrown into the next morning. But then a different day, out of nowhere, there’s a full handjob animation in the bedroom, her sitting so close you can see every little jiggle of her tits as she moves her arm, and cum splashes all over her fingers. It’s inconsistent, messy, horny as hell, a little broken, kind of like browsing incognito mode on Chrome while pretending you’re doing emails. Honestly it deserves a fake award like “Best Use Of A Kitchen Accident To Show Sideboob” because the amount of times “oops I spilled something” leads to curves on display is ridiculous. And yeah, I’ll complain forever that the main menu music sounds like a cheap loop from some free app, but the second the mom bends over in those yoga pants again, I magically stop caring.

GUPP die Film feels like someone took a military fetish fever dream, stuffed it into a horny school parody and then just let it spin out of control in the best, trashiest way. You’re glued in POV most of the time, so everything hits very direct: when a futa officer with ridiculous big tits leans over your desk and grabs your cock for a lazy handjob while still talking about “tactics”, it feels messy and personal, not neat. The whole thing pretends to follow some “serious” story about tanks and war and school life, but honestly, the only big battles that matter happen in your pants. I kind of love how it never really decides if it’s a war drama, a dumb comedy, or just a long excuse for you to get drained by a harem of aggressive girls with huge asses who treat your virgin status like a resource to be exploited.

Some moments stick hard. Like the first time you get shoved against a locker by this tall futa commander in a school uniform that clearly doesn’t pass dress code, her thigh pressing between your legs while she orders you to open your mouth. No gentle build up, no romantic music, just a rough oral scene right there, boots squeaking on the floor, her dick slapping against your tongue while she keeps your head in place with one gloved hand. Then, in the same route, she suddenly goes slow and makes you lick the tip like it’s some kind of holy ritual and you’re thinking, ok, which personality are we on now? The game is full of those flips. One girl rides you in vaginal sex like she’s trying to break your hips, yelling about victory and formations, then five minutes later she’s blushing like a shy schoolgirl when you cum inside and there is that thick creampie dripping down between her thighs in this weirdly sweet closeup. The 3D style makes all the jiggling and the way their feet curl during orgasm look almost too real sometimes. There is a footjob scene on a couch where the camera just stays low, staring at her soles rubbing your shaft, and I swear it lingers there longer than some people’s entire sex lives. It’s stupidly indulgent. I liked it. I was also kind of annoyed because her toenails are perfect and I kept waiting for at least one chipped nail to make it feel human, but no, they’re like anime toenails, forever flawless.

The “harem” part isn’t just a tag someone slapped on. Once the routes start crossing, you end up in these ridiculous stacked situations, like being pinned under one girl’s big ass while another one sits on your face and a third is arguing about who gets your next load. You barely see your own body, which somehow makes the female domination hit harder. They talk about you like a toy, like a strategic asset, and even when you’re technically choosing options, it doesn’t feel like you’re in charge at all. Kind of hot, kind of frustrating. I had one scene in Chrome while also half-watching some tank documentary on YouTube in another tab and it accidentally synced up, so you have the narrator talking about flanking maneuvers while this girl with massive tits is bouncing on you in POV, her ass slapping against your thighs, drool on her lips, and it just felt wrong in exactly the right way. Still, some transitions are rough, like you finish a creampie and suddenly you’re in a classroom again with no clean-up shot, no sticky thighs, nothing, and I keep thinking, where did the cum go, is there a lore answer for this? There isn’t, of course. The game just shrugs and throws another blowjob at you. And by then you don’t really argue.

SeductVille feels like opening a horny Instagram feed that somehow turned into a town, and everyone inside got way too comfortable with you way too fast. You start as this guy just walking around, thinking it’s the usual click-next visual novel thing, and then you realize the game is more like wandering through a sexy playground where nobody cares about “fail states,” only how far you’ll push it. You flirt, you tease, you fuck up lines, and the game doesn’t punish you, it just tilts the mood a little. One girl laughs when you’re too direct, another one gets visibly wet in the animations when you’re the same kind of blunt. That contrast is kind of the fun. The 3D models are thick in a very “I follow this creator on OnlyFans” way: big tits that actually bounce, asses that fill the frame when they lean forward, lips and tongues close enough you can almost feel the breath when you go down on them. The oral scenes are animated with more attention than some devs give to entire plots. Watching a girl slowly wrap her lips around the MC, eyes looking up, spit shining on the shaft, felt more intimate than half the supposed “romantic” games out there, and then the next scene she’s using her mouth like she’s trying to win a speedrun. Makes zero sense and yet I liked it.

What really got me is how it pretends to be a dating sim but is actually a sandbox of vibes. You open the city map, poke somewhere just to see what happens, and suddenly you’re in a bar flirting with a thick milf with a dress one size too small, her tits almost falling out every time she leans on the counter. Talk sweet and you get a slow build, teasing, a hand on your thigh, her ass brushing your crotch “by accident.” Talk dirty and she bites her lip, pulls you into the restroom, and the scene jumps into this animated sequence where she’s kneeling, sucking you off while trying not to ruin her makeup, cheeks hollowing, ass wiggling like it has its own personality. Then later, same woman, different route, she’s riding you on the couch like she owns you, her big ass clapping in your face with this stupidly satisfying rhythm. At one point I was stuck just staring at a side shot of a girl’s butt in tight shorts for way too long, because the shading on the fabric crease between her cheeks looked low-key perfect, then suddenly I noticed the background plant clipping in a weird way and it annoyed me, and I kept noticing it in other scenes after that. The city itself feels like a horny toy box: you try a risky dare here, unlock a new scene there, flirt badly with some confident chick and she still ends up grinding against you while you sit on a park bench pretending to check your phone. The choices never feel like “right vs wrong,” more like “soft tease vs filthy escalation” and both give you something. Sometimes the dialogue is awkward, like Google Translate horny edition, but in a funny way that almost matches how I actually talk when I’m flustered. And yeah, the MC is supposed to be in control, but half the time it feels like the women are the ones playing with you, especially in those slow teasing scenes where they pull your pants down and then just breathe on your cock, smiling, licking along the shaft without taking it in, dragging the frustration out while the animation loops. Those moments hit harder than the actual climax. The whole thing is messy, sexy, indulgent and somehow still chill. Dare to play it alone, or invite company?

Prison is already kind of horny if you think about it, and this game just leans into that in a way that feels wrong in the nice way. You’re this broke guy who literally went to jail because he tried to keep his family from starving, and instead of endless soap jokes you get thrown into a “college program” that looks more like some cult experiment. Concrete walls, shitty fluorescent light, and in the middle of that you’ve got curvy professors in tight blouses, prison staff with asses that don’t fit in regulation pants, and a social worker who talks about “rehabilitation” while squeezing her tits together so hard you can almost hear it. The tone is weird, like half after-school special, half “what if graduation meant stuffing your cock between big soft breasts in the counselor’s office.” It actually makes sense in a twisted way: your ticket out is not shanking someone, it’s answering trivia and not getting distracted by the jiggle physics your brain is inventing while you look at the art.

The whole trivia angle sounds lame until you’re in the middle of a question and realize your dick is on the line. One wrong answer and the professor with the glasses and ridiculous rack tells you she’s “disappointed,” pulls her skirt down just enough to show you what you could have had, then sends you back to your cell with nothing but blue balls and the echo of her voice in your head. Then on another day you get on a streak, nail a bunch of questions in a row and suddenly you’re pinned to her desk, her big tits wrapped around you, lipstick smeared, moaning about “good study habits” while you try to remember if you even saved the family you went to jail for. There’s this one scene with the prison nurse where she pretends it’s a “full body check,” and she’s clinically stroking your cock, asking you random knowledge questions while you’re trying not to cum before you finish the quiz. If you manage to hold back and answer, she drops the cold professional act and just sinks down on you, riding you slow while the little health monitor blinks in the corner like it’s judging both of you. And yeah, sometimes the trivia itself feels like your high school teacher copy pasted Wikipedia after two glasses of wine, and a couple questions repeat in a way that makes your erection feel smarter than the script, but somehow that fits the whole cheap, wrong, horny together vibe. One minute you’re deep in some nonsense about history, the next the social worker’s bent over the metal table, you’re buried in her ass, and she’s still trying to finish a sentence about “emotional growth” while you pound into her like the only diploma you want is dripping down her thighs. It’s trashy, almost lazy in places, but there’s this dirty charm in seeing a grim concrete prison turned into a fucked up campus where every right answer peels off another layer of clothing and every oral exam ends with actual oral. You’re not just grinding stats, you’re grinding through shame and lust and the feeling that some ancient god is laughing at you while you try to balance general knowledge with the urge to blow your load all over your teacher’s big tits.

Mickie starts as that kind of guy you scroll past in a Discord server and forget in two seconds. Plain job, plain apartment, plain everything, like a default avatar with a pulse. Then the game basically grabs him by the balls, laughs a bit, and starts taking them away. The transformation stuff doesn’t slam you all at once, it sneaks in, one little change at a time. First it’s small tweaks in his body that you can just ignore if you pretend hard enough, then curves, then that moment in the mirror where you see a stranger with a soft face and big tits looking back and you realise “oh shit, that’s me.” The game really likes to linger on those transitions: watching his chest swell, hips pushing out, ass filling his underwear while he’s still trying to think in “bro” language. There’s a scene where he’s in bed, just trying to jerk off like usual, and his grip shifts, his breathing changes, fingers trail over his chest instead, and for a second he’s more curious than scared. That little “did I just moan like a girl?” panic hits kind of hard. It feels messy and horny and confusing in a way that’s weirdly honest.

It presents as a dating sim on the surface, but the fun is how much of it is just Mickie trying to renegotiate his own body one touch at a time. You get that slow slide from “what’s happening to me” to “ok but what if I squeeze a bit harder” to “why does my pussy get wet when this person talks nice to me.” The 3D models help a lot here, because the dev really likes big asses and it shows. Every new curve gets its own moment, especially when you end up in cramped spaces with someone who just cannot keep their hands to themselves. There’s teasing everywhere, like the game is edging you on purpose: groping through clothes, someone “helping” her adjust her tight top, awkward kisses that turn into messy oral because neither side wants to stop. One scene in particular stood out to me: Mickie kneeling in front of a love interest, cheeks flushed, clearly still not used to her new mouth and tongue, trying to give oral like she remembers guys doing in porn, then slowly relaxing into it when she realises she actually likes the taste and the control. Later on, when vaginal sex opens up as an option, the first time she feels herself being stretched, there’s this mix of fear, curiosity, and “oh fuck do that again” that pops up in the text. The game doesn’t shy away from masturbation either, and it’s not just one animation loop. It gives you those private moments where she is alone, figuring out what fingers feel best where, rubbing that newly sensitive clit, dripping on the sheets, and getting embarrassed about how loud she was. There are a couple of routes that are kind of awkward and one character who feels like a discount otome love interest imported from another game and shoved in, but honestly, by the time Mickie is grinding in someone’s lap, big tits bouncing, getting groped from behind and gasping like she forgot how to breathe, it’s hard to care. The fantasy setting around it kind of flickers in and out of focus, sometimes it feels like the world exists just to give her more places to get railed, sometimes it suddenly wants you to care about some quest, then it goes back to handjobs under the table like nothing happened. I wish the UI text was less tiny on my phone browser, but that’s apparently my curse with these games, I always end up pinching the screen mid sex scene. Anyway, by the time you realise Mickie isn’t “he” anymore in your head, she’s already there in the story: a fully shaped, horny, confused, very fuckable girl trying to date, tease, and get off in a world that won’t stop touching her.

King’s Guard torches your whole damn life in one night, and the game doesn't waste much time making you feel it. Orphanage gone, sister Alice screaming somewhere in the flames, and your magic blood suddenly turns you into public enemy number one. After that, it’s like being thrown out of a comfy mobile idle game right into some horny Dark Souls fairy tale. You stumble through a kingdom where anyone with magic is hunted, which sounds edgy, but here it mostly means the hottest girls are the ones everyone wants dead. Witches with ridiculous tits hiding in ruined towers, monster girls lurking in the woods, half-breeds pretending they’re normal until you pin them to the wall and they stop pretending. The tone jumps around a bit. One moment you’re talking about revenge and trauma, next moment you’ve got a stacked witch grinding on your hand while she pretends the spell “requires focus” and you’re knuckles-deep between her legs, watching her whole body shake in those smooth little animated loops.

The sex side hits that fantasy power-trip vibe hard. You’re a male mage, and once you figure out your magic doesn’t just blast enemies but also kind of bends people, things get spicy real fast. There’s a scene with a cat-like monster girl where she resists you, claws against your chest, then your magic pulses and she just melts. She ends up on top of you, big tits bouncing in your face, and you grab her hips and just slam her down on your cock until she’s crying and begging for your cum. The camera lingers when you creampie her, the animation shows the shiver going up her spine, then you see the white leaking out when you pull out. Same with this shy half-elf girl, she’s all “we should not do this, the church is close” and then she’s jerking you off under a ruined altar, stroking slowly at first, then faster, staring at your cock like it’s some forbidden relic. When you finally climax, she panics but doesn’t stop, and the shot lands all over her face, dripping down her lips. They actually show the motion of her swallowing what’s left while she’s still rubbing the last drops out of you.

There’s a messed up, almost quiet scene later where you camp with a girl who clearly trusts you too much. She falls asleep next to the fire, legs slightly open, night robe hiked up, and you can choose to “resist” or “touch.” If you don’t resist, you end up sliding your hand under her panties while she’s out cold. Her body reacts, even if her eyes stay closed. She moans softly, shifts her hips against your fingers, and the game lets you keep going. You finger her until she’s wet enough to push in, and there’s this slow, almost guilty rhythm as you fuck her while she sleeps, her breathing getting louder, little whimpers, her tits bouncing under the cloth each time you push deeper. When you finally cum inside, the creampie shot is slow, and she half-wakes, mumbling your name, but not fully. It feels wrong, and the game knows it, but it still lingers on that dripping detail between her legs when you pull out. Moments like that sit right next to softer bits, like a monster girl leaning against you after you’ve pounded her, asking if you’ll stay, then you ignore her feelings and just ask for another handjob. She smiles anyway, drops to her knees, and starts working your shaft with both hands, spit mixing with your cum from earlier, using your cock like a toy. The mix of revenge story, weird moral choices, magic bullshit and all that rough male domination sex stays kind of addictive, even when the pacing is weird and you realize you forgot why your character even started this journey in the first place.

Guy stuck at a nowhere gas station gets yanked out of his boring life and thrown into horny space college, that’s basically the whole vibe, but the game plays it like this messy sex-comedy where you’re always one wrong line away from either getting laid or getting roasted in front of everyone. You start as this dude who smells like fuel and cheap coffee and suddenly you’re walking around a galactic campus where half the girls have tails, scales, glowing eyes or something that definitely shouldn’t be that thick and that soft at the same time. Conversations swing from dumb jokes to “oh shit she’s actually into me” in like two clicks, and the way the dialogue branches is sneaky: you think you’re just picking a flirty line, then ten minutes later you’re in a dark corner of the dorm, her pressed to the wall, her tits squeezed against your chest while your hand slides under her skirt and the camera actually lingers on the groping, the teasing, her legs shaking when you finally push inside. There’s a surprising amount of romance talk right before you rail someone from behind and fill her up, which is kinda funny and kinda hot.

What got me hooked was how often the game lets you be awkward or stupid instead of always smooth. Like, you can try some bold move, lean in for a kiss with this alien girl with big ass and weird pupils, and if you misread her mood she’ll clap back with sarcasm so hard you feel it in real life, but if you play it right she’s on her knees a little later, drool running down your shaft while her tongue moves in this slow, hungry way that makes the MC grab her hair. And yeah, when it swaps to anal or a creampie, it doesn’t cut away or censor, the animation actually shows the thrusts, the skin slapping, the way her body tenses when he shoves deeper. One time I accidentally locked myself into a softer route where I was supposed to “take things slow” and five clicks later I had her bouncing on my dick in the back of some hover-bus, her tits flying everywhere, my hands full of her ass, and I was like, yeah, this is “slow” I guess. It’s still kinda annoying that the text box sometimes covers the good part of the scene and you have to click it away at the worst timing, like the exact moment his cum is spilling out of her pussy, but I’m not even gonna start on that or I’ll get tilted again. The whole thing feels like some horny mashup of a sci-fi campus sitcom and Pornhub categories, and you keep telling yourself “ok, last scene” and then the next monster girl shows up with tight clothes, big tits stretching the fabric, and a shitty sense of humor that somehow makes you want to see how she moans when you finally push her face down on the bed and make her take every inch.

You start as this poor bastard locksmith who can’t catch a break, gets greedy one night, eats a bullet, and suddenly you’re standing in front of a smug goddess who basically says: “Congrats, you’re dead, now put on a habit and seduce girls for my religion.” It sounds stupid written out like that, but it kind of works because the game never pretends to be serious. Everyone in this world thinks you’re a girl, but under the nun clothes you’re a guy, and the game loves playing with that confusion. You walk around the convent and the town like a fake innocent sister, while slowly corrupting one girl after another, and half the fun is watching them go from shy and faithful to moaning sluts who can’t stop touching you. It’s less about one big romance and more about slowly collecting your own small cult of stacked nuns with huge tits and asses who think “prayer” means getting filled in every hole.

Most of the time you’re in this sandbox loop: walk around, trigger scenes, grind affection or “faith” with each girl, unlock the next stage of their corruption. There are quests, but not like big epic quests, more like “help her with chores, get her alone, end up groping her over the habit.” One moment you’re pretending to be a good sister listening to their problems, the next you’re got a crying novice pressed against the altar, your hand under her robe while she begs you to teach her “new rituals.” The animated scenes are honestly where the game shines the most: tits bouncing while you pound them from behind in the chapel, white habit pulled up over a fat ass, her rosary smacking against her back every thrust. There’s full-on vaginal, oral on the church benches, creampies where the camera lingers on your cum leaking down her thighs and soaking the holy cloth. It doesn’t shy away from group stuff either; at one point you earn enough trust that two of the girls decide to “share blessings,” and you end up pinned between them, one riding your cock while the other sits on your face, both in nun outfits, kissing each other while moaning your fake nun name. The game acts like it’s about saving lost souls, but you’re really just turning the convent into a pervy harem hotel.

What surprised me is how casual it is to play on phone. It runs as a mobile game fine, which is dangerous, because you’re on the bus tapping through what looks like a normal quest, then suddenly a monster girl with horns and big tits is sucking you off in a graveyard. Some girls aren’t even human: there’s this fluffy-eared, big-booty “sister” who is clearly not from any bible, and the scene where she sits between your legs, tail twitching while she slowly licks your shaft, feels way more intimate than it should. The mini games are kind of random: there’s one lockpicking thing that should be your big skill, since you were a locksmith, but it’s so easy it feels like a joke, and then out of nowhere there’s a timing mini game in the middle of a blowjob scene that made me fumble my phone in a café. I wish there was more depth in how you level each girl’s corruption, like some proper gamified tree of “teasing” to “total slut,” but instead it’s more linear: flirt, grope, lesbian experiment, full sex, group sex, done. Still, the teasing stages are actually nice; watching two nuns “practice confession” by groping each other over their robes, then slowly sliding hands under the cloth, wet sounds and nervous giggles, almost did more for me than the full-on gangbang in the chapel later. The home upgrade system is there too, you pump money into better rooms and the convent becomes more like a luxury sex monastery, with private cells for your favorites, but the UI made me misclick so many times I started hating the furniture icons and then forgot why I was mad in the first place. Anyway, if your thing is watching cute “holy” girls turn into cock-hungry worshipers, getting creampied on the altar while a smug goddess laughs in the background, this thing does not hold back.

Cole comes back from his fancy school with this whole “I’m a grown man now” attitude, and then boom, he has to move into his big brother’s place like some temporary guest. The apartment feels a bit too clean, a bit too calm, and then you see why. Alan’s wife, Jennifer. Big tits, soft smile, that kind of “I’m trying to be a good person” vibe that clashes hard with how tight her yoga pants are. She greets you with this warm hug that lasts just a second too long, chest pressed on you, her perfume sitting in your nose. Alan is right there in the same room, talking about work or whatever, and you’re already thinking all the wrong things. And the game kind of goes, “Yeah, this is exactly what you think it is.”

It doesn’t throw a tutorial in your face or something. You just move around the house and poke at stuff like some horny raccoon. Kitchen, bathroom, living room, her bedroom when nobody is watching. Simple click, dialogue choice, small scene, then it escalates or pulls back depending on how much of an asshole you decide to be. One moment you’re just helping her with groceries like a normal brother in law, next moment you’re standing right behind her as she bends down, your hand “accidentally” touching her ass, and you get to decide if you pretend it was nothing or keep your fingers there. She reacts. Not like a porn bot, more like a woman who is half scared of what she’s feeling and half turned on. Sometimes she shuts you down and you feel like you messed up the whole route, then later she comes to your room in a tight top asking if you’re mad at her. That whiplash is basically the core of the corruption: she is good, she wants to stay loyal, and you keep pushing, testing how far she bends before she breaks. And yeah, there are paths where you don’t act like a total creep and try to fix your thing with Alan instead, but let’s be real, most people are here for his wife.

The 3D models are the usual VN stuff, but Jennifer’s body is clearly where most of the attention went. Her tits move in these small ways when she walks around in the house robe, or when she leans over you on the couch, and at some point you stop listening to the actual words and only track how deep the valley is between them. Sex scenes don’t unlock just by clicking “yes please” all the time. You have to play it a bit like a strategy game on itch and a bit like you’re texting someone on Telegram in real life, finding that sweet spot between “polite younger brother” and “I want to fuck you on the washing machine while Alan is at work”. There is groping in tight spaces, sneak touches under blankets, hand up her top while you both pretend to watch some generic movie, and those little micro choices switch the tone. Sometimes she gasps and pulls away, sometimes she just bites her lip and lets it happen, sometimes she gets angry and you feel like a shitty person, which is honestly kind of hot in this context and kind of horrible too. The game acts like it is about romance and healing the family, but half the time you are plotting how to make her moan your name in the room next to your brother’s. No moral lesson, just this slow, sticky slide from “innocent cohabitation” to “I’m fucking my brother’s wife and I kinda want him to find out”.